- May 31, 2019
They should only be capturable in wartime,just like the big ones. Problem solved.
Hmm.. The Problem is if no PVE Player would go into Avalon there would be noone to Kill anymore !the stones can be weakened in the pve phase and hunting points reduced, no one speaks against but giving pve ppl decision-making in a pvp area is negligent
So taking a stone is PvPing? I dont have to understand that non existant logic. You can also just let them kill you and dont fight back, so technically you didnt PvP because you didnt attack themand in turn making the higher zender rewards yet again only available via pvp'ing ... no thanks
also it wouldn't change anything about the tread creators worry of the "surpreme commander gone mad" thing
if you can get pushed into pvp at any time, (becouse you want to make it only possible during wartime) : yes,So taking a stone is PvPing?
If you can do the Stones Only in PVP Time and all PVP Players can see on the map what stone was made there would be pvp at any stone and only pvp players who win could take the stones.So taking a stone is PvPing? I dont have to understand that non existant logic. You can also just let them kill you and dont fight back, so technically you didnt PvP because you didnt attack them
have you ever thought,Now, back to the topic, removing points from tower grinding will not prevent Pver to enter Avl and to do quest at all, you can even farm guards during war time for faction tokens to upgrade the 3 new Astels (which, depend on your faction of the week)
or as saying, that a regular army general should be able to pay his bills the same way as a regular city-mayoris as good as saying that A PART-TIME CASHIER SHOULD EARN MORE INCOMES THAN Warren Buffet in real life.
Nah, I doubt that your eyes are perfectly fine. I never say remove tower points should be removed for EU server and you are clearly unable to read the simply in-game guides.thanks for your concern, my eyes are perfectly fine
but maybe we could give your brain a little exercice, please try to mark the correct answers with an [x]
i have said that :
- exactly these towers have to be the counterpart [ ]
- (pve/pvp) should give equal ammounts of zender for equal time-consumption [x]
- towers and mobgrinding (with diminishing returns at rising ranks and massively boosted during pvp-times) are currently the only way, to obtain zender outside of pvp gameplay [x]
- as long, as there is no other possibility, to earn zender without pvp i'm against taking out these gameplay elements [x]
starting from the simple split between pve and pvp points,
going over to a pvp opt out function [for example via a 4th, "neutral" avalon faction (individually selactable for each player regardless of his guilds faction before the start of a avalon weak)
with the currently existing factions gameplay tailored more towards the wishes and needs of the pvp players
and the 4th factions points tailored towards pve gameplay, (with a faction bonus in between the winning and loosing pvp factions)]
or a colloseum / tower-defance type of gameplay element as counterpart to the arena
(and since today you're suggestion, to implement zender rewards into a possible hard-mode of dungeons)
it doesn't have to be exactly these current towers as counterpart,
all i want is a fair counterpart allowing players who are unhappy or don't like (for whatever reason) this games pvp mechanics,
to obtain the pve relevant stuff [dungeon tickets, astel, skins] in an equal ammount of time
if that's acchieved via stones, via a colloseum / dungeon element, via a pve copy of avalon
have you ever thought,
that a non pvp-player might not want to get constantly pushed into pvp during wartime at all ?
or as saying, that a regular army general should be able to pay his bills the same way as a regular city-mayor
and that neither the city major nor the army general should get locked out of public health care just becouse of the work he choose
of course a national kick-box / football / [insert] - champion will earn more income, than a 3rd rate never heard about
of course the president will earn a higher salery, than some village-major
but the salery of the president will be higher than the one of a 3rd rate never heard about
and the salery of a kick-box champion will be higher than the one of some small 10 inhabitans vilage guy ...
haven't said anything about that one, have i ... ?
but what you miss is, that there are several different possibilitys and ways to earn that income ...
and that you can choose, with which one you want to try you're luck
as for the middle part of you're posting :
i will definitly not start a conversation about what i know or don't know about this games mechanics with you here since that would be 100% off topic
Terra - unfortunatly- plays the same game but she wants it to turn 180° and basically be a different game ..Nah, I doubt that your eyes are perfectly fine. I never say remove tower points should be removed for EU server and you are clearly unable to read the simply in-game guides.
You don't know what "counterpart" means as well. Farming mobs during war time is a counterpart, while farming towers are meaningless grinding that brainless grinders like yourself might grind that 24/7 and never got sick of it.
You can kill another faction's guards to earn points and faction tokens to upgrade your 3 new astels by chickening out like a XXXX and not helping your faction to capture stones (that give you even more hunting points + quests unlock, which is the right play style)
Many quests in there do give points alone with decent rewards. However, you purposely not mentioning them at all. By posting bs that towers and mobs farming are currently the only way to obtain Zens outside of Pvp and you actually think that someone will believe your bs. Man, just stop trolling or twisting the facts.
From what I can tell, you are playing a different game and it's difficult to understand your suggestions, maybe you should download the "right" game file before entertaining us with massive misspellings and Minecrafter's logics.
eztellia wants the atra-stone points removed [180° turn] ,Terra - unfortunatly- plays the same game but she wants it to turn 180° and basically be a different game ..
in terms of zender : see my answer abovePeople work hard to get Royal Guard Captain, General, Hero, their kill points at 100k, but thats only 1/5 of what the PVE players are getting for doing towers only. See the problem here?
... yes and no ...Nobody is forcing PVE players to do PVP, but where do PVP players get a say in this?
well, are these astels useful? sure they are unique, but zender can get you 5 star astels that you actually use , while these are just 10 points per?in terms of zender : see my answer above
in terms of other rewards (new astel / treasures) ...
how many astel do you get for ... let's say hero ?
and you have to calculate into it, that [thanks to unsyncron reset timers between weeklys and avalon reset] you get them twice a season / week, without any additional afford at all
we had exactly that problem since literally day 1 of avalon,yes, you have to calculate into it the resets, but what if you are in the same faction few times in a role?
10 points per ?while these are just 10 points per?
i'm not talking about the pause on tuesday,Avalon ist paused in tuesday because thats maintenance day.